Question about Commission/Booth Rent

[kacey_k]

So I’ve been behind the chair since 2000 (I know I’m old) I’ve worked corporate as a manager and stylist, owned my own salon and for about 5 years I had booth renters. Sprinkle in covid and surprise blessing I got pregnant at 37 and decided to close my salon. Fast forward a year later and I start working at my current job as a commission stylist working 5 days a week 50+ hours I built up my clientele and then my husband had knee replacement so I made the decision to go to booth rent and went down to 3 days a week. Well I’m being told I HAVE to work 4 days and 8 hours a day. My question is…Booth Rent don’t that mean I make my own rules and pay my “rent”???

[BraidednDreaded · Accepted solution]

Start with….Reading over whatever contract or lease or booth rent agreement you signed. USUALLY yes….booth renters make their own schedule, days, and time. Can even do house calls and pay the required rent as long as it’s being paid and you’re not there. As a SALON SUITE it’s the same concept without a salon team or workers. Just pay the rent and show up whenever you want. 
But READ WHATEVER contract you signed. Not sure why they would be enforcing something like that unless they have some hidden stipulation within the agreement/lease

[Tuttyplace]

Hi, I'm sorry to hear about this. First I  pray your husband recovery is well from his knee surgery. Im a salon owner. When you become a booth renter. You are responsible for your own supplies. Some salons may offer different things you can use. But for as a booth renter is responsible for setting his/her own schedule, hours, pricing,etc. You are your own boss. Booth renters are not employees of the salon. You are only utilizing their space . As long as your rent is being paid on time. It shouldn't matter if you are there 3 days. Commission pay , I can see where they would request for you to be there certain times. I would have a one on one meeting with the owner. Please make sure you carefully read all documents before signing . I hope this helps. Please update us ,how did it go.

[kacey_k]

I’ve not signed any contracts and this owner just thinks she can go change things outta the blue. Technically there is no writing at all. There is just me and one other booth renter. What it is I think is she wants to suck more $$ out of me to pay for her own “habits” 

[kacey_k]

Thank you for the well wishes! Surgery was Oct 10 and we have 1 more PT appointment left!!! 

[tl6734]

I agree with the other comments. Normally a booth rent situation allows you to work your own schedule and hours.

It’s not like the salon makes more money off you if you work more hours.. so it does seem odd. 
I know many booth rent places work with stylists to designate days or hours they work so the days/times they don’t, they have the potential to rent out the booth for extra income.
Definitely check your contract.

[SugarAndSkinSpa]

It actually depends on the space. I have contractors but we share space so they only pay rent when they work. So the more they work the more they make. If rent is static then yes the salon/spa doesn’t make more regardless of how many days someone works. 

[itzy]

If you’re in the state of California please reference AB5 and AB 2275. 

As an Independent Contractor your responsibilities are the following:

• your own business license,
• carry your own insurance,

• sellers permit among others things. 

Clear signs of independence:

• keys to establish

• your own hours of operation 

• your own prices 

• not subject to uniform

• free to retail  among other things 

Im a Barber and Cosmo Apprenticeship instructor and deal with this all the time, as apprentice is a 2yr paid on the job trying with an apprentice license, finishing off with your full license. I hope this helps. 

[StylesbyGloria]

It usually does mean that you are on your own schedule as long as you’re paying your booth rent. However, if you have signed a contract, you may want to read it and make sure that you have not signed anything that states that you have to work without having clients and if you have not signed any contract to this you should not be forced into doing hours that you do not have clients to service.

If they are telling you that they need you there for their clients and they can give you extra money then that would make sense because other than that why would they tell you to be there and you do not have scheduled clients? it just does not make sense.

[SugarAndSkinSpa]

Yes. If you are a 1099 contractor you have complete autonomy for your hours, your clothes, your services. I own a spa with all contractors besides me and have read all of the IRS rules. I would suggest (if you have a contract) that you print the IRS rules for a 1099 contractor and show them to the owner. 

[RebeccaSfylist]

Depends on which state you’re located in is different. States have different laws. However, New York State, for instance a rental Salon owner may not legally enforce any rules other than those pertaining to the physical space i.e. not hanging things on the wall

[arickrtattoos]

I'm a tattoo artist so it may be a little different, but, in places where I pay booth rent, I make my own hours. If the owner of the shop expects the shop to be open certain hours, that's on them. I had one shop owner say that someone needed to be at the shop to make sure it was open from 11AM-8PM and that we could figure out our own rotation amongst that, but we all had our own clientele, set our own appointments, and had enough business to not have to worry about waiting around for walk-ins. We ultimately told her that if she wanted someone there for that, she could do it because we weren't sitting there for no reason. We didn't even really get a lot of walk-ins and the phone rang maybe once a day with an actual potential client. 

Around here (central Iowa), it seems that a lot of service providers are going appointment only, so most people just except that they will have to call or message to make an appointment.

[SavageBarber]

I feel a lot of shop owners in all industries struggle with the difference between commission and booth rental. They try to blend the two and it never works. How i see it, as a shop owner myself, is if you want a booth rental shop then you treat you shop the same way a plaza treats the it. You set you own hours of operation just make sure you have the agreed amount of funds at the time you're supposed to have them. If you're doing commission, then you operate how most malls do, store have to be open at a certain time and close at a certain time and a percentage of the income you generate goes to the shop. It's very simple. Again, A LOT of shop owners blur the lines and it very rarely turns out well.

[Mirrorimageext]

As a salon owner for 10 years Ive always did booth renters and the reason being so we all can create our own hours because we are all entrepreneurs with our family and other things going on. You definitely set your own schedule