New Square Loan in 2024

I’m at a bit of a loss for what else I need to do to be offered a new Square Loan at this point. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years, had 7 loans now that I’ve have paid back early every single time. Metrics are all in green, record sales year. In 2023, record numbers across the board, no refunds, no complaints or issues of any kind in our entire history. Current loan is 80% paid off, but no new offer in site. This is the kind of stuff that causes businesses to find someone else to process through! Please help! I’m sure I’ll get the same old excuses that you guys send to everyone about looking at every aspect of the business. But there isn’t a single aspect that isn’t way up. I’m not sure if there is a new process they are using now, or if there is some kind of issue with my banking or something else I’m not thinking about or aware of. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, because I could really use some new capital to start the year off with and reinvest into my business!

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😆🤣😂thank you! We answered the same time! I was just scrolling through here looking for a 2nd post with no metrics for 6 months and found one, and it's that time of the day and updating, and I get sidetracked. If you happen to come across it, would you screenshot it, and I posted it in the stellar question of the week. The 2 mods are looking into it or getting it to the right person. Ps. I nominated you and 2 others for our top 50 of the year! Whenever I'm lost or don't know there are 3 of you that always help me with the answer or where to look. Thank you!


No worries at all.  We're all just a bunch of sellers helping one another anyway.  I am far from a top 50 , but I appreciate your efforts!

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When I scream help there you are! So yeah, we got to pick our 3, and I did! Thank you! I get in cool and Mello mode to full-blown panic in a second! 😆 🤣 😂 

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🤣Oh we've all been there! You aren't alone that's for sure!

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My offers last August and November came in at 80% and 66% respectively. I think it’s all varies on the company 

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Got an offer today at 82%, my sales are skyrocketing compared to the past years, loan offer was $2k more than the last. Still wish it would be about double what they offered as all of my loans are paid off in less than 4 months.. but oh well! Waiting on the 1-3 day approval now

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Congratulations! Yes, back to normal would be awesome! I am glad it wasn't half of the previous offers I've been seeing! Thank you for the update!

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We got a offer tonight we are 88% paid off and it was $20,000.00 less than last loan. Kinda want to accept but also only owe 6,000.00 on last loan and would really enjoy just having the loan paid off and have all my sales everyday.. paid over $300.00 just today out of my sales to repay the loan. 

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I get that I believe both I saw yesterday were half or around it. Usually, the way it's been going but they took it for the next offer it doubled or up 60/65%. Not all of course but I go by numbers and what's trending. I don't take all offers. Especially, in the summer till Christmas time. That's my busiest time. Well not the offer you wanted but good luck with your decision and keep us posted.

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Yeah I am one of the people whose prior loan offer dropped by about 60%. I’m at 40% paid off in just over two months.  I’ll be at 60% within the following couple weeks and hoping that my following loan will go back to similar to the one prior.  

Also, I’m hoping that this pipe loan won’t affect anything.  If my next square offer is at or above my offer from last November, that would be perfect. If it comes in near 65%, and back where it should be, I can use it to pay off the pipe loan, and be in great shape. I am just thankful for the pipe loan. Came right at a time when I needed it most. I’m currently slower than I’ve ever been, which a lot of small painting businesses in my field are in the same boat.  People cut back on spending on things like this a few months prior to election. On top of that, I was recently in a bad car accident a few days ago, adding more unexpected expenses. 

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1. You did the Pipe correct? I was wondering if that would affect your offers.  #2. While you are processing through Pipe if an offer would be available. This is just IMO I would look through any new loans AFTER you are all hooked up and using Pipe and see if in the new loan agagreement if Square takes into consideration the amount of the LOC and say with your daily processing volume, the health of your business we start to see instead of a 20k offer minus say 4k an offer of 16k. I know one square isn't going to let you get into a situation where you can't pay it back or the minimum due or with their rate depending on each loan and Pipe at 10%. I am off today because I had to go in on Sunday (my day off) and fill in. I will tag in a couple of Mods and see if I can get one to answer and not say call customer service. It's more of a general question, not my personal account info online. Let me know when you get your deposit from Pipe and then I will hit the mark as the best answer you can too and then you can see when your next square loan offers come and look right here how long it takes if lower by the amount of the Pipe loan. I think us users will have to pin this down by communicating and following the trends for now. 

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I’ll definitely keep the community posted on this all. I still haven’t received my pipe capital yet. They deposited the $1 back to me that I sent them for verification. The guy at pipe told me that means I’ll be receiving it later today or tomorrow 

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Seems like such a long process but so glad they’re willing to work with square customers.. I’m still waiting for square to verify the account so hopefully soon! 🙏 Praying you’re doing ok, read on another post you were in a bad accident. Hope you get your capital soon! 

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Just now got it!

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Awesome!!!! 👏🏼  thank you so much for the updates! 

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Congratulations and thank you for the update! So just about one week from the offer to deposit. I'm sure that will vary a bit on what day of the week you receive an offer. 2. Not a ton of documents they needed. Seemed pretty easy to use and upload information going off your post. Just trying to get a better feel for the next group of offers or if it is a new daily thing. I am 100% sure imo 😆 that you guys were the test. Batch and see how and make sure no bugs along the way. The only thing I saw was the the waiting on Square to verify the account. Hopefully, they can work on that going forward and speed it up. Honestly, compared to a big bank it's about that long if not longer if the board has to approve it. We might be looking at the future here for loans???? 

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Unfortunately that has been squares policy thing for manual bank verifications for years. I read posts from 3 years ago saying up to 4 business days. Square send me an email saying it would be end of Monday but it was first thing the previous Saturday morning.  They sent and received the 1 cent the following day so it should have been verified that day. The guy at pipe showed the screenshot of the penny verification.  

Now let’s hope this doesn’t mess with my square offers. If it does there’s nothing I can do, pipe came through at a much needed time for me. So that was awesome they worked with square. I wish they offered like 10-15% of your yearly revenue, but I’m sure being my first loan with them, they will only increase as they see me paying them off. 

I also think I just landed a large $11k job (probably 7-9 days of work) which is gonna be a big help.  Job isn’t for another 3 weeks but I’ll have a deposit coming this week and rest upon completion. So two good things since my lovely car accident lol 

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Also being that my last loan was so much lower, the trend seems to be that the next loan comes earlier (60-70% paid off) and is larger.  I’m over 40% paid in 9 weeks. So it won’t be long until I get a feel for squares offers.  I’m thinking that the offers won’t change, i just hope the loan application doesn’t get like denied due to this you know?  I have no problem with 25% of my card sales being taken out for loans. Especially being that pipe loan won’t take long to pay off. And if I get an offer from square to get me through the winter, I’ll be in great shape from there on out 

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That is the worst part waiting for the weekend to end! Then kick back up on Monday! Hopefully, those waiting where you are which seems just about everyone but Jjpainting hopefully tonight or tomorrow morning it's deposited! From everything I've read 📖 it's the initial setup that takes the longest. I couldn't believe the amount of 3rd companies out there that work with different pos and multiple types of lending or financing. Good luck to you all!

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They do! I normally slow down as well as people don't know what or which way we are going. But this year I haven't so far. I know when I see Christmas in the other stores get ready. Well, it has been and last Sunday I filled up half the store smh all week bag and bag. On Saturday 90% of sales were Christmas items already! They said it's so depressing Christmas just makes them feel good! Happy day to you then and if that works for you awesome!

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I'm looking through everything and have read through their loan agreement and from what I take as im reading through it. It shouldn't go against your square loans. They (Pipe) take into consideration as a 3rd party lender what your offers range from. I guess the way I took it was you getting a credit card, a new truck they use your debt-to-income ratio, and that is why we are seeing 4k to 4,600.00 max so far. Will that adjust im guessing so as the 2 companies intertwined with each other more. It is a start a huge bridge to get businesses funding instantly (I pay mine off immediately at my credit union) and use it for emergencies or inventory at a deal I can't pass up on. All of the above is just reading others' reviews and going off of Pipes's website. I don't work for either company. Their customers are happy that BB is a good standing with them. I guess we will see! I really hope people start posting here especially now! Their example, the documents needed, to letting 3rd parties into their accounts have to be done manually anything that might help others. This was rolled out pretty quietly and it looks like us will have to keep everyone updated! Thank you for explaining everything along the way! 

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January 2nd 2024 and 80% of 9th loan currently re-paid. All metrics in green and had a record sales year in 2023 while exceeding previous years sales in every single month of 2023. Customer numbers and individual sales are all way up as well. Never waited this long for another loan offer, especially when we’ve been doing this well. I know many have been complaining about square capital (square loans) in 2023.. I’m not sure what has happened or if it’s just the economy and bank systems tightening their restrictions, but there is definitely an issue. I understand that Square is a billion dollar company, but for the amount of money that I and others give to square, they have terrible customer service and support. I am now in speaking with Clover Processing and am probably going to move forward with them if I don’t receive another loan offer very soon. Clover’s business loan process seems to be much simpler with clear cut requirements and easier access. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years and we’ve been as perfect of a partner as possible with not a single refund or complaint of any kind in all of that time, it’s terrible that we would have to leave, but for the sake of our business, we may need to

move on. 

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