Seeking advice on "Probably fraudulent purchases"

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I have a series of about 25 transactions over the last week or so from 2 different customer names, both with same email. All transactions using a different credit card. Many of those transactions initially failed and then went through on the 4th or more attempt. Orders are being shipped to freight forwarding companies in Miami. My business is primarily local in New England. I think it's pretty obvious that these people are using stolen credit card information. I called Square and they are telling me there is nothing I can do, as long as the transactions went through and they are not disputed. After transactions are disputed, then they will flag my account as "under review" at which point they will stop my transfers to my bank account. This seems very wrong to me. The rep that I spoke with said there was no way to escalate the matter and that we will have to wait to see if any transactions are disputed. Only then will any kind of fraud investigation begin.

 

1: Can anyone think of a valid reason people would do this.

2: Is there any way I can escalate this directly with Visa or Mastercard? 

3: My initial inclination is to refund all of the transactions, but this might no alert the credit card holders... 

 

Anyone have any advice on how to proceed? 

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Hi Mysticcoffee,

 

Sorry to hear about your issue.  First thought I can think of is to refund the transactions.  Another suggestion is consider delaying any shipments by 24-48 hours.  If the cards are stolen doing so may give the real cardholders a chance to spot and report any fraud on their accounts. You would still receive a fraud dispute in this scenario, but at least you wouldn’t also lose the merchandise.   There's so many red flags in your post it's quite crazy - the one that really caught my attention was "Orders are being shipped to freight forwarding companies in Miami."  That's a scammer for sure.  Hopefully others here may have some additional thoughts.

 

jk

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Hi @mysticcoffee.  Sorry to hear you are dealing with something like this.  I can give you some answers to your questions, then I have a suggestion that could help you in the future.  But, first, the Square rep you spoke with is correct — even if you have a strong suspicion about fraud they can’t technically flag transactions based upon suspicion.  The legal jeopardy they could incur (if they were wrong) would not be pretty.  To answer your questions:

 

  1. I can’t, unless they are ordering for different locations using payment cards assigned to those locations.  For a regional business that does all the ordering for their satellite offices/branches, this could be a valid way of keeping the books straight.
  2. Visa and Mastercard are going to say the same thing Square did.  In the absence of cold, hard facts there’s not much they can do.
  3. No, it won’t alert the cardholders (if you are correct about fraud), but it will protect you.  That is really your only concern here — to protect your business.  Your desire to protect others is laudable, but you need to do what you feel is best for your business.  If you feel as strongly as you do that these are fraud, then you should refund all of the transactions.  Unfortunately, since they were approved by the cardholders’ banks, you will be out the processing fees, which are not refunded.

Having said all of that….. Square has something called Risk Manager for online sales.  With it you can set up flags that will either ask customers for more information to verify their identity OR will flag suspected transactions (based upon your rules) for you to review and either reject or accept.  It is not perfect, and it will not catch everything.  There’s also a chance it will flag perfectly legitimate transactions based upon your rules.  But it’s better than nothing.  Here’s a link to the Getting Started guide.  The short video is worth watching to give you an overview of the process.  Also, I would go to the Square Help board and search for “Risk Manager,” being sure to limit the results to “Help Articles” rather than “All Articles.”  There is a lot of very helpful information to assist you in figuring out what sorts of rules and actions you might want to set up.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

Chip A.
Square Expert & Innovator and member of the Square Champions group. (But NOT a Square employee, just a seller like you)

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Hi there @mysticcoffee - I'm very sorry to hear about this situation 😞

In addition to what @JK_Fiber_Art and @TheRealChipA have already mentioned, I suggest also looking over this Support Article on preventing disputes. This article includes some tips and tricks to help prevent these types of situations in the future.


I hope this information is helpful but please do let me know if you have any additional questions.

Violet
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That's all great, but those suggestions will not do anything to prevent fraudulent transactions using stolen credit card information. I tightened up rules in Risk Manager, but still that's not going to stop people who are determined to commit fraud. What I'd love to see is some way for sellers to report fraudulent transactions. We're on the front lines. We know our customers. We know when something isn't right. Also it would be great if sellers weren't penalized when a fraudster targets us. We are victims as much as the true credit card owners. The card owners get reimbursed. Sellers do not. 

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