New Square Loan in 2024

I’m at a bit of a loss for what else I need to do to be offered a new Square Loan at this point. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years, had 7 loans now that I’ve have paid back early every single time. Metrics are all in green, record sales year. In 2023, record numbers across the board, no refunds, no complaints or issues of any kind in our entire history. Current loan is 80% paid off, but no new offer in site. This is the kind of stuff that causes businesses to find someone else to process through! Please help! I’m sure I’ll get the same old excuses that you guys send to everyone about looking at every aspect of the business. But there isn’t a single aspect that isn’t way up. I’m not sure if there is a new process they are using now, or if there is some kind of issue with my banking or something else I’m not thinking about or aware of. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, because I could really use some new capital to start the year off with and reinvest into my business!

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Sorry. Missed this response. I was at 74 or 75% paid back. But my processing  volume and frequency were way up. The average month I process about 12 payments, I had 26 or so processed by card during 30 days prior to this offer. But I was anticipating on an offer at a lower percentage than my last offer. The offer prior to this one came in at 91% paid off and that loan was $14,700 and the next offer was only $6300 with sales up 25-30%. The new offer was $9700 with about $1700 of it used to pay prior loan

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Ugh, it's so hard to try and figure it out with offers I gave up! People ask me all the time do you think it will double? I said most go up 1-4k or down. I just don't see but 1 or 2 that get 20-30k but they used to get double that amount as well. 

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Mine was 11k down from last offer. It was literally like they had started me over as if it was my very first loan from them. Had been paid off for so long. 

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Congrats! I  know not the amount you wanted but it was needed!

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What is a Pipe loan?

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SMH, you are extremely puzzling to me. I don't know what it is. You can't tell me it is the algorithm after so long it's got to be something else. There have been a couple of people who were like you (one close to a year) and another 6-7 and they started emailing at the bottom of the loan page is the happy and frown face and they laid out what was going on. They read them because both got a reply and a Rep assigned to their account and there was a flag on their account. The rep stepped up and got them to drop off the red flag and back into the system and not hold me to it but I believe the one in 2-3 weeks got an offer much lower but paid off in a few months and boom another offer and larger. There has to be something somewhere you have no clue about that is caught up somewhere. I saw one guy post he was caught up over an EIN number! Apparently, they sent a message asking for it and something else to complete his last offer about 9 months ago, and he said he never received it or he would have sent it asap! That put up a flag. Once he called and did the bottom frown they reached out and showed him the message from months ago and he sent it in. A month later new offer came in. 

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Update: I got an offer yesterday at 72% paid off, same offer as the last offer no increase at all! I'm not even accepting it right now because I owe 4500, and it just doesn't make sense. Ugh I miss the days of higher offers!!!

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Is the offer close to what you owe? I’m just trying to get as much insight from everybody as I continue to wait.

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Hey Paulynne, 

I’m sitting pretty close to where you’re at now. I owe just under 2k on a 30k loan. Lowest amount I’ve ever owed. I spoke to square regarding my account because everything should be eligible for a new loan and she explained it’s the volume of sales(transactions) not necessarily the amount of sales that give the attention to lenders. That helps to know, it just doesn’t help. A lot of my transactions are higher just not a higher volume of transactions.:(

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Well that would explain things for me a little, my business has changed a little and I now supply wholesale as well as selling directly myself. That plus I raised my prices and now have an offer of buy 3 for a set price. This has meant my gross has gone up significantly but my number of transactions has stalled. Fantastic, I love that square doesn’t look at the bigger picture of an individual business! 

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Exactly! I got a 27k loan+ 3k fee back in January, my slowest month ever. I was actually surprised that I got a loan then. The lady told me I had a higher volume in January than September, and surely she was right! It was about 100transactions more and 8k in sales less. The algorithm is so hard to understand sometimes.

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Yes, that's why I try to tell people we all have a slow month, or in my case now its has been about 60/70% this last few weeks if not longer. I still get 10+ plus swipes a day but usually it's the opposite. This has been a different late summer/fall. I think in my case retail furniture they are bringing cash to stick to their budget honestly. But when you look at the quarterly sales and metrics everything is up and doubled sales already from last year and I am really busy until after December. End of January I slow down. So if you close for a week or go to fall hour/winter hours I don't stress that much over that. Disputes and returns are really important to keep to a minimum to none!

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They should 100% also in the winter or whenever is your slower season and might close a day or 2. I have a stand for the house and I push 10-20 pieces of furniture on sale if im closed and that way im still swiping or processing a sale. I'm retail furniture in Michigan and we close on a Monday in the winter or a bad storm or ice. It is time for an online sale! But unfortunately, not all of us are the same and we are all unique in what we do, what we offer, and our billing part. Good luck and hopefully you can brainstorm and figure out a way to get it to line up or process once a day some how. 

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You are correct! It's 8.00 or 80.00 it's that you are swiping daily! The other 2 biggest are returns and disputes! Keep them at zero if possible! They cost money, time, and a human to do all of it. I am retail furniture and I still have a zero return policy! Instead, all of the new furniture comes with a warranty from the company. 2nd I take care of my customers on my own depending on each situation with in-store credit, a return in-store only, and I recoup it in the end because the customer is happy with it and comes back! If it's minor my husband can fix it and we can sell it in the gently used section. So I never had a return or dispute. I know in-store vs online is very different and not as easy to control but those are big ones. Good luck and hopefully soon! 

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Ok that makes a lot of sense. That doesn’t give me much hope, but I’m going to keep selling and see what happens. 

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my loan I'm paying off now at 78% was 13,300. Previous to this one, in June it was 18,400. 


they just offered me 18,600. So no big jump, and I still owe 3400. Its just not what it used to be.

these low offers and high percentage paid back just aren't it 

 

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Unfortunately, I wouldn't either! By the time you roll over and subtract that from the new offer depending on how much you process 1-3 months paid off and then here you are again. It's a 50/50 shot next offer might be higher or the same but at least by then the other would be paid off or in the upper 90s and a different story. I miss the days 4/5 years ago according to sales each loan grew and grew. In the last year or so mine has been 1k higher to 6k higher than the previous which was 2k lower but I was 91% paid off and have been watching the trend all summer. Then 5 months into at 69%, they sent an offer 😆 no I passed. 

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I have done everything that I was supposed to do on my current loan and I still haven't got a new loan offer I'm at 83% and my loan is paid way down and usually I have gotten I a new loan offer by now

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Hi @Mikelike26 

 

You are on your way to paying git off.  You can check out this thread here for the latest and "trending" so to speak % that to her users are seeing offers at.  Keep processing sales and you'll have that paid off before you know it!

Dan
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Square’s loan offers are based on a variety of factors, and while past trends have shown offers at certain thresholds, the exact parameters can change over time and are not always disclosed in detail. Here are a few points to consider:

  • Dynamic Criteria: Square uses a complex set of algorithms that take into account not just the repayment percentage but also your recent sales history, account health, and overall business performance.
  • Market Conditions: External market conditions and internal policy changes can also impact when and how loan offers are extended.
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Hello, I am in the same boat as you. I’ve paid my loan which was $33,000. I’ve paid 77% plus. My sales have been great. I am a small operation and I use these funds every time to grow and sustain during this slower summer months. I’ve been with Square over 10 years. My last loan they offered me a new loan and only 52% or something like that. I thought for sure once I got to 75% on this new one I get a new offer and for some reason, I haven’t seen it yet and it’s very frustrating and disappointing. I hope they come through soon.

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