Has anyone received a loan offer in 2023?

I'm at 71% and usually see a offer by now (between 65%-70&).

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Re: Has anyone received a loan offer in 2023?

I'm where you are at (minus the actual loan offer part.) Sale are up about 60% over a year ago and processing is up about 65%.  All the other things are in the green.

 

I think most people's frustrations are that it's just not transparent and there isn't a clear goal to strive for. It is also disheartening to just be told the same quotes over and over. It comes across as uncaring and impersonal. Which if that's the case is fine, that should be conveyed to clear up misconceptions and so people don't get their hopes up. It would also come across as more professional to state those things (economy and such) from Square itself. It would let people know where they stand and can make appropriate decisions. 

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People are frustrated with zero clear answers. And clearly they aren’t giving out loans like we have all experienced in the past or there wouldn’t be so many of us saying “what is going on?!”  Don’t diminish other experiences because you think it’s not reality. I have ALWAYS gotten a new offer every time at 60-62% paid and we are at 76% paid and nothing with 40% increase in sales this year. The silence on Squares end is BS and they loan from within and not through a bank but have zero answers… ever. So many other processors are up our butts asking for our business and we pay a TON to Square in processing and loan fees. They should have the decency to give us some answer other than “we have no answers and you are SOL” It’s rude and insulting to all of us that are willing to pay the large loan fees and keep sticking by Square when they don’t offer the same favor in return. 

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I completely agree with you. Have been with square for many years and my business counts on these loans. The last month has been so stressful. I am so sorry this is happening to everyone. I have look at other processors and I must admit I might be changing by the end of week. Square can’t give we am answer 

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Anyone else not able to get to the loan screen???

 

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Yeah mine is currently not even an option to click on and I received a loan a month ago 

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72% no offer sales up all factors are "good". Nothing to do but wait.   I don't think I will see one for a bit.  My balance plus another loan fee I think is still too high for them to offer me anything.  The posts on here are stressing me out. Trying to stay positive.  I don't typically "need" the loans but recently had some costly repairs so it would help lessen the blow.   Justbremember everyone situation is different...im wondering if they are watching the "type" of business your running.   Seems alot of covid is coming back, in my state anyway.  Schools and what not.  

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If you all read through the forums this has been going on for years...do I think something has changed since their system changed yes but what I don't know.  But reading through older forum people have always been commenting on same issue.   

 

And for the ones saying g clover is getting immediate loan approvals don't believe them.  The grass isn't always greener on the otherside.  

 

 

Quick and convenient: Clover Capital is a fast and convenient merchant cash advance, repaid through a fixed percentage of your users' future credit card sales. Simple to qualify: Businesses must be active for at least six months with a minimum processing volume of $1,000 in Visa & MasterCard transactions.

 

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Actually in response to comment I am looking to switch over to them. For capital they just need 6 months of current cc transactions. 
I was told a lot of merchants moved to them because square was down for a day. But who knows 

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on chat with them now.    Here is their response to loan question.    Also they are verrryyyyy expensive 

 

 

After 6 months, you can apply for our Clover Capital program to get funds to assist your business.

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They are approving people 

I am in the process of getting approval 

I will give full details when I know 

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Received an offer today.   76% paid.  Same increase I've been getting with each loan.   I did not connect a bank.  I received the offer AFTER  my dashboard updated for the day and stated I was not eligible.  

 

Here's my opinion.  Hate me if you want.   First everyone's business is different.   

 

They repeatedly say everyone situation is looked at differently.   I think they watch habits, downtime, type of business and probally so much more.    Over the years I have been with square my loans come 3-4 times a year and follow the pattern of my up and down times.   

 

Third...this is where the hate me if you want comes into play...square loans are designed to help small businesses.   If you are processing half million or more a year that is not considered "small" business in these types of loans.   They also have a cap on what they will lend. These loans are meant to help businesses who don't fit the criteria for tranditional loans (gross revenue, credit).  

 

Lastly...people keep talking about interest is high.   There is no interest on these loans.  That percentage is the amount you pay back with each transaction.   The only thing you have is the loan fee...the higher the loan the higher your pay back percentage/loan fee

 

 

Do not give up and do not go by someone else's situation.   

 

Good luck! 

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This generic response is of zero assistance.  

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Thank you for pinning this at the top! I'm helping 2/3 people a day who don't even know how to get their dashboard to check their loan status! Your the best!

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Hello - just curious if anyone else is at our level? We process close to $3m per year (and to those who say we are NOT a small business - you are wrong the Fed Gov considers up to $10M per year as SMALL BUSINESS) ANYWAY OUR PREVIOUS LOANS WERE ALL AT $250K - USUALLY RENEWED FOR OFFER AT AROUND $40K TO GO - so last loan we payed off at 100% then waited 4 weeks - and were finally offered a loan at $100K. I believe Square has changed metrics altogether - the phone people say it is all done automated however AI still needs HUMAN programming - Square WILL NOT DISCLOSE any changes to the program - I would like proof either from other sellers at our level or from Sqaure that loans ARE still being offered at the $250k level. Our processing level has remained at last year LEVEL or more - SO AGAIN CAN ANYONE (sellers) WHO HAS EVER RECEIVED A $250K LOAN IN THE PAST LET ME KNOW IF THEY WERE RENEWED AT THAT AMOUNT - OR IF SQUARE REP COULD CHIME IN AND TELL TRUTH ABOUT THE MATTER. Thank you

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You said months ago you were switching from square to some other processor. Then you tried convincing everyone square wasn't lending. You said square wasn’t lending to your type of business. Then you got an offer and didn’t update. Now you are complaining about the offer. I got a very small offer after increasing sales, paid it off and I haven’t gotten another since payoff August 2nd. Was on track to process 1m this year. I’d be elated if we got a decent offer. 

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@danengine2004 I have had offers in the 100 to 250k range.  I have never even thought about accepting a Square loan though as it has never made a lick of sense in the fee and short payback period for what the offer is.  a 3-4 week payback loan of 150k isn't helpful and would cost 6 times or more what my RLOC fee would be for the same period.  I think the algorithm just can't comprehend the seasonality of our business when I process between 10 and 100k a day for only a window of a month and a half. 

Most of my friends in business are more in the 25-75k offer range from Square.  All use LOC or RLOC from banks and none have taken a Square loan.

As for what Square can share, of course they can't share the ammounts offered per customer and the metrics, a bank wouldn't either.  You can figure out the rough average of Square loans from their quarterly filings, In the last 3 months (Q2 2023) Square Loans has facilitated approximately 119,000 loans totaling $1.10 billion in originations. On average 1,322 loans per day with a value of $9,243 per loan, or $12.2 million a day.  So from that you can deduce that most loans are lower amounts but about the same average as it has been over the last few years.

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I REALLY WISH a Square rep would just be honest and tell us what happened? I totally understand that alloffers are computer generated BUT funnly thing about AI - a HUMAN BEING MUST BEGIN THE PROCESS - which means square sets the parameters and away it goes - PLEASE SQUARE tell us why you have changed eligibility - tell us IF indeed loans are still being given at $250K - SOMEONE AT SQUARE HAS TO TELL THE COMPUTER WHAT TO DO. MANAGEMENT MAKES WORKERS BELIEVE THAY HAVE NO INFORMATION - THAT IS WRONG. LOOK AT MY PAST LOANS IN SUCCESSION 92,500, 250,000, 214,000, 250,000, 155,000, 100,000, 50,000, 55,000 - SOMETHING HAS CHANGED - LAST LOAN PAID OFF JEN 23RD - NO OFFER YET - PREVIOUS LOAN WAS PAID OFF THEN WAITED 14 DAYS - ALL OTHER PREVIOUS LOANS WE OFFFERED AT BETWEEN 60%-75% - PLEASE SQUARE I AM BEGGING YOU TO JUST ELL ME - THAT OU HAVE CHANGED THE LOAN PROGRAM DRASTICALLY - THAT WILLALLOW ME TO MOVE ON TOA NEW PROCESSOR - MY PROCESSING CONTINUES TO GROW EACH HEAR - MY 12 MONTH RUNNING TOTAL IS $2.7m - SQUARE LOANS HAS CHANGED AND I WOULD LIKETO HEAR FEOM A SQUARE REP THAT IT HAS AND THAT MANAGEMENT IS BACKING OFF THE PROGRAM OR NOT INVESTING IT IT ANY LONGER OR SOMETHING - LET SME PARTNERS AGIAN SQUARE PLEASE

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Do all factors NEED to be Green Good? Square just dropped this new arbitrary one “account activity” even though below it all my activity is GOOD green - the NEW place it is located in it says NEEDS work - can square explain how this can be changed to Good? 

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I'm not @Violet, but if all your factors are green but 1 that is just the loan that's being paid off is all. The factors have been around for a while and there for us to use as a tool to see if we have more return customers vs. new customers or days we're processing fewer cards. Etc. Once I got used to it, I found myself using it more often. I'm kinda old school and hate change, but I do use and like it now. It updates every day. Mine is usually 1-3 pm Eastern time.  It's hard for all lenders right now hun and hopefully, it will loosen up soon. But I do know you are not alone, and that's why I asked for help to get you to the new thread. Good luck!

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Hello first! We have a user about 15 minutes ago that is reporting that their service is down in the loan thread and can't reach anyone. Can you help direct them to the right thread?

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Yes, I got an offer and accepted it in January. I have completed multiple loans with Square. This time, due to what must be a rather short time period that the numbers are based on, my offers went from $26K to zero, to $25K over the course of less than two weeks.

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Hi,how long did it take you to start getting large offers like that? And what are your sales like if you don’t mind me asking.

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